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Defamation Of Character – What Happens When Double Stories Don’t Stop?

January 14, 2014

So with the 4Cast project, we’ve been launching a series titled Thunder From Down Under, which had generated some crazy responses. The wildest things about these responses is it’s both sides, not backing down from their views and opinions, and everyone is able to follow-up with “facts” disputing the other parties points.

With both sides being “right”, who is right?

And to make the matter more sensitive, children, abusive homes and an abusive Child Protective Services is the subject matter. How can something involving kids be so corrupt and cutthroat? Why are kids being used to push a B.S. agenda? The whole situation is so screwed up.

The controversy is more over the host and his credentials and agenda. It seems that everyone acknowledges that there is a huge problem with CPS. This is not only a domestic problem here in the states, but an international problem stretching from the USA to the UK and Australia. From the Facebook comments we’ve received, it would seem that there’s Canadian abuse as well.

Why CPS Exploits Children

CPS groups receives incentives for children. They get government funding for those children. Therefore, kids are worth money in the eyes of CPS and that can lead to corruption in many situations. We’ve heard horror stories of children being taken for no good reasons. We’ve even heard stories of children being taken out of good, loving families and placed into abusive and neglectful foster situations.

But on the flip-side, we’ve also had comments, mainly over Facebook, stating that the people aggregating these stories are full of lies. so who’s right and who do you believe. Obviously one side is lying. Or one side is being fed lies and believes they’re telling the truth. It’s possible that everyone is feeding us lies and we’re stupid for believing anyone involved in the whole damn situation.

Here’s The Videos Sparking Controversy

Here’s the playlist of the entire season, starting with the most recent episode and going back in time. You can see the subject matter and the people talking. They all seem incredibly legit and presenting a real issue. As I’ve stated, it seems to be common enough of an occurrence to be acknowledged as a real and legitimate issue. But here’s some of the feedback that we’ve been receiving.

Here’s Some Comments We’ve Gotten

Names have been hidden:

Matt does not need any certification to prove his loyalty and commitment to me or any of the 200 some members in our group, he has worked endless hours giving up not only sleep but his time to help people in the U.S and U.K. .Matthew Virgiin is pillar of strength to all who have been falsely accused and unjustly going through hell fighting a corrupt government to get their children back he has not only given me hope but the strength I need to go on. Thank you again Matthew.

An excellent show, Thunder Down Under with Matthew Virgiin. Matthew’s heart is gold and he truly cares for families, puts himself out there to fight injustice with CPS, and spends long hours doing so. He has proven himself and I hope to see more shows with him!

Maybe you should speak to a few of us Australians who have been screwed over by him then you might not be so willing with the gratitudes!!!!!!!!

What proof do you have of any of his work in Australia – He has none whatsoever – he has been ousted by all people associated with Childrens Protection Australia wide – Matt has no credentials whatsoever, is a scammer looking for others overseas to fund him to get to USA to be with some woman he met over the internet named *************** – Check his go-fund – He is prepared to leave Australian shores forever to supposedly fight for American families leaving his 2 year old daughter behind in Lismore Australia – What kind of parent is that!!!!!

This man is a 26 year old nothing that sits on facebook and harasses people for his scam to get to America. he has not helped people in Australia at all. How can someone that is a bludger even have a radio show. He doesn’t care about his own child bit can save peoples children I am mean really!!!!!!

Omg not this idiot again!! Wasnt that long ago he was arrested in South Australia and he still owes a little old lady money for rent!! THIS MAN IS A SCAMMER – WAKE UP PEOPLE – Some of you Americans have already worked this man out

What I see is a few people who have repeatedly bashed and have offered little proof. I have seen the proof of things Matt has done that are good. I guess I would offer this of what you learn in kindergarten, if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all. If Matt is a fraud the truth will come out and he will be held accountable. If Matt is not a fraud you all could be liable for slander or defamation of character.

Nope sorry can not do when someone else is attacking a very good friend of mine!! And so ur the grandmother are you, yet you still side over on Matthew virgiin who has conspired to kidnap, who has been arrested and charged with possession of illegal weapons, who has threatened many people, who has absolutely no idea of family law and who has a 2 year old daughter but never bothers to see her or support her in anyway??? Hmm makes alot of sense to me too.

As you can see – Controversial / Contradicting!

Would really like to know what you guys think of this. Especially if you’ve had any experience with the subject matter.

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4 Comments
  1. Jackie Martinez permalink

    I understand there are two sides to a story, but only one can be true. Nathan, please allow me to provide the facts to you. As anyone can determine in this scenario all of the defamations of character against Matthew cannot be substantiated and is only based on hearsay. The facts are listed below:

    #1) Yes, there was a charge for illegal possession of some small hunting knives that Matt bought into part of Australia without the knowledge they were illegal. Matthew was staying with this couple and the charge was due to an attack by the husband to Matthew and his own wife. (that is correct an abusive husband) There WAS never an attack by Matthew and I have messages from the wife to confirm this. I was present by phone the whole time. She is the person who provided me with the details within minutes of the incident. The husband has documented anger issues. This couple is seeking vengeance on Matthew… because of their own issues and not being able to get their children back due to their own issues. The possession charges no longer exist, Matthew’s record is clean.

    #2) There is a lady who also lives in Australia who has gathered forces with this psychotic couple and as I see it, her spite is solely based on jealousy. recently she has asked for a spot on a show and it is oblivious that she is jealous of Matthew’s recognition in his achievements. Oddly enough she constantly contacts Matthew and ask him for favors… like there is nothing wrong!!!?? Can anyone explain that??? Didn’t think so. I also think that when people speak of character… one should ensure that their own is clean. This would be a less than creditable source.

    #3) There is an ex girlfriend… who abused and stole everything from Matthew. She has joined plots with the above people.

    a. It is my pleasure to say that Matthew is a big participate in his daughters life. She is a little girl who knows and loves his father. Her mother and Matthew have a relationship that is healthy for their child. And he is there for support and assistance. these claims… I know to be false. and his daughter’s mother has asked these people to refrain from harassing her. YES, harassing her! I said that right!

    b. claims of ripping off an old lady is false… Matthew still has a relationship with this lady and it is not true. But the claims of the wife and husband harassing an old lady who is a member of Matthew’s EXTENDED family in the grocery store is factual.

    c. there are no other claims… except the for the one’s provided here. The same ones, by the same people, over and over. None of these have been substantiated, because they are unable to do so, due to the fact that they are FALSE. You can only reach so far… and get nothing.

    #4) There is a woman in the US her false allegations are spawned by jealousy as far as I can see it. Matthew has had a lot of success stories and has gained a lot of recognition. Unfortunately and sadly so, I have found in this battle against CPS people are searching for fame. And this would be considered a less that credible source also.

    #5) Another women from US… have not heard from her in awhile. Maybe she has let it rest. 🙂 But again this person allegations are solely spawned on her jealousy of Matthew’s achievements and lack of her own. Matthew was asked to join forces with her… but Matthew declined her offer. She knows Matthew has potential to overcome the corruption and wants this for herself.

    So, I guess… all of the Matthew supporters, and there are many… would like to challenge anyone to provide proof of your allegations about Matthew. We know the truth, but in order to add creditability to your claims… it is time to provide the proof to substantiate your claims. What everyone is seeing is 5 people who has a vendetta against a person for their obvious reasons.

  2. susan Brown permalink

    This is a website doing a investigation on mathew virgiins we the people org.https://m.facebook.com/peopleseekingtruth?m_sess&viewtype=public

  3. Susan Brown permalink

    Jackie we could all go by your “unbiased” opinion. Ha just kidding…Are you not the “love of Matts life”? The same one whom is also still married but shared a recent weekend together? If you can provide any documented proof and not just he said she said crap to prove all these wonderful things your beloved Matt has done then I will appologize. If Matt has such a great relationship with his child why is he attempting to move here to the United States? Leaving his child thousands of miles away. Oh wait I know to be with you. Also the knives you mean to tell me that with all his vast knowledge of the laws he didnt know that one? Kind of like lets play the I didn’t know stupid card. You better hurry up and let good old Matt move to Louisiana with you since he only has a temporary visa. Funny thing is that you cant even marry him to allow him to stay unless you get the Divorce first. Also if Matt stays beyond his Visa which is possible since he made some comments and from what I heard has been received by all the appropriate people. Matt you were a wanna be in Australia and Your a wanna be here in the states. Good luck on proving anything of what Matt has done. Whats he going to show you a Automatic response form, from the New York state judicial services which he laid claim of being proof that he makes things happen. Ha that’s laughable.

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